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Whither the Democratic establishment?

Josh Marshall offers an explanation for why Wesley Clark would be a viable candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, even if he enters the race this late in the day:

[B]y the normal laws of political gravitation, Dean's sustained surge should have forced a coalescence around one of the several more-centrist-minded establishment candidates -- Kerry, Gephardt, Edwards, Lieberman. With Dean catching fire, those who aren't comfortable with his candidacy should be getting behind one candidate in order to beat him. But that clearly has not happened.

In some ways this is a more striking development than Dean's rise itself.

Now, why hasn't that coalescence taken place? I think the answer is elementary. None of the current candidates has passed the audition for the job. Lieberman's campaign is generally believed to be moribund (and I like the guy). Edwards has gone absolutely nowhere. Gephardt has bet everything on getting the support of organized labor. But if he gets it, it'll basically be a mercy ... well, I don't want to be off-color. But, you know what I mean. Kerry is basically the establishment front-runner at the moment. But it's an extremely anemic frontrunnerdom. He's basically the front-runner by default because all the other potential frontrunners who haven't caught fire are doing even worse than he is.

What this all tells me is that there is a vacuum with a lot of political forces pushing to fill it. And yet none of the current candidates has been capable of becoming the vehicle for those forces. I know these are some convoluted metaphors. But I trust my meaning is relatively clear.

Now, there are all sorts of reasons why late-entering, draft-so-and-so type candidacies never end up winning. But the vacuum I've just described is one Clark could potentially fill. At least he could get in the game and give it his best shot.

Marshall is probably correct in his assessment, but there is one other possibility -- the Democratic establishment is too fractured/decentralized to coalesce around anyone. The union kowtowing that Marshall mentions is but one example of this. Don't forget the wooing of public school teachers, trial lawyers, African-Americans, and environmentalists.

The contrast with the Republicans is quite striking. While the Dems are busy trying to please key interest groups, the GOP is trying to augment their control over key interest groups, as this Washington Monthly story makes clear:

If today's GOP leaders put as much energy into shaping K Street as their predecessors did into selecting judges and executive-branch nominees, it's because lobbying jobs have become the foundation of a powerful new force in Washington politics: a Republican political machine. Like the urban Democratic machines of yore, this one is built upon patronage, contracts, and one-party rule. But unlike legendary Chicago mayor Richard J. Daley, who rewarded party functionaries with jobs in the municipal bureaucracy, the GOP is building its machine outside government, among Washington's thousands of trade associations and corporate offices, their tens of thousands of employees, and the hundreds of millions of dollars in political money at their disposal.

At first blush, K Street might not seem like the best place to build a well-oiled political operation. For most of its existence, after all, the influence industry has usually been the primary obstacle to aggressive, ambitious policy-making in Washington. But over the last few years, Republicans have brought about a revolutionary change: They've begun to capture and, consequently, discipline K Street.... The corporate lobbyists who once ran the show, loyal only to the parochial interests of their employer, are being replaced by party activists who are loyal first and foremost to the GOP. Through them, Republican leaders can now marshal armies of lobbyists, lawyers, and public relations experts--not to mention enormous amounts of money--to meet the party's goals.

I actually hope I'm wrong in this assessment and Marshall is right. As I've said before, I want two viable parties out there. And much of this is attributable to the contrast in party control over tthe executive and legislative branches. Consider this an alternate hypothesis.

But let me close with a hypothetical question: if I'm wrong, then what explains Terry MacAuliffe's continuing reign as the Democratic Party chairman following the 2002 midterm elections?

posted by Dan on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM




Comments:

The major fracture that Clark would heal is the Dem split over the War. Clark's cautious and questioning attitude toward the war might well give validity to the Democratic left who opposed it. Clark more than anyone, will be able to cast doubt on Bush's conduct of the War (for instance, claims like this have more authority coming from the mouth of a General) without being cast as a McGovern.

But, I think that the split between "new" and "old" Dems on other issues like economics and trade are unlikely to disappear.

posted by: Mike Van Winkle on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



The presidential election is 1 year, 2 months, and 8 days away--and it's "late in the day" to enter? That is sick, sick, sick.

In a better world, there would be no federal money before January, no delegates selected before May, and no conventions before August.

posted by: Roger Sweeny on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



I assume Terry Mac's continued reign at DNC central has to do with pictures, but I'm not sure of whom.

posted by: Flory on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



Roger, the primaries that will select the nominee are five months away, but I've never seen anything wrong with the public having a greater opportunity to scrutinize the candidates for President. I see nothing "sick" about the time period -- why shouldn't we take our time in selecting the leader of the world's only superpower?

Anyway, what I see is a Democratic Party consumed with anger at a popular President but without a committment to winning. It reminds me very much of the GOP in 1996.

posted by: Ryan Booth on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



Has anyone figured out why President Clinton essentially fired Clark? That is, he was let go long before the normal term as NATO commander was up... why?

posted by: Al on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



He was fired for nearly starting WWIII.

The Russians were in the process of occupying the Pristina Airfield. Clark ordered British General Mike Jackson to take it. Jackson refused, telling him "I'm not going to start the third world war for you". Clark pitched a fit, and the whole thing snowballed uphill to Clinton and Blair, in a massive political fight.

Clark lost.

posted by: michael parker on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



I agree with Daniel that I would like to see two viable parties, but I sincerely doubt the Dems will coalesce around Wesley Clark. In many ways he is even more inept than Kerry-Lieberman-Edwards, etc. The measure of that is (if you think about it) that if Al Gore actually came into the race, he would win probably nomination handily. Clark is a tedious man who was an extremely pedestrian speaker on CNN, except when answering questions about whether he would run. Then he turned coquettish--and has remained so. The Democrats need someone of stature to be able to compete.

posted by: Roger L. Simon on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



I want two viable parties, too--it's just that I don't want (today's) Democrats to be one of them. (The Democratic Party of Hubert Humphrey and Scoop Jackson would be another matter.)

posted by: Kirk Parker on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



I have been wondering why the pro-business wing of the Republican party has continued to go along with Bush policies that are clearly not in their interests (see: tax cuts=faltering economy=lower profits, push for war=anti-American sentiment in Europe=falling sales for McDonalds and Coke). That Wash. Monthly article goes a long way to giving an answer.

Eternal war and deficits are not good for business (unless you are selling weapons...but that is a special case). It seems eventually CEOs will look around and realise they are being duped by their GOP lobbyists, and there will be a change. There are certainly structural barriers to that happening, most notable of which is that the main source for information on potential policies and their impact is the lobbyist. But CEOs are a saavy bunch, and they will not buy a damaged bill of goods forever. It is surprising they are continuing down this road though. Even with all the money they spend support for Bush is getting weaker. It is a huge gamble to put all their eggs in one basket, and it could really bite them in a** if power shifts back to the Dems. It is a mystery why there is not a big Dem project to counter this movement of K-street towards the GOP, it is not a hard case to make why they should try and remain above the partisan fray.

posted by: Rich on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



Ryan,

I see nothing wrong with the public having a long time to scrutinize the candidates for president either, but that's not what happens presently.

This far before the election, most people don't care and don't do much scrutinizing. The media coverage doesn't engage most people, partly because it is so early and partly because it is so much "horse race" coverage--who's ahead, who's behind--and so little substance--how would this person act as president?

Then in a short period of time, eight or nine months before the election, most of the delegates will be selected. Just as people start to get interested and start scrutinizing, the selection will be over.

posted by: on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



"tax cuts=faltering economy=lower profits"

???

Which economists are you following? Paul Krugman??? This seems asinine.

Howabout "tax cuts=paying less to the government in taxes=more profits"?

posted by: Al on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



As a progressive Democrat, I'm frustrated that your analysis is as accurate as it is. But it's not so much that the Democratic Party IS a collection of interest groups as that its CONCEIVES of itself as a collection of interest groups. Republicans began to pursue what I call "worldview politics" in the mid-70's and Democrats haven't caught up yet.

posted by: Allen Brill on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



Which economists are you following? Paul Krugman??? This seems asinine.

Well, I do follow Paul Krugman, and while he can be out to lunch on a lot of things the man does know what he is talking about regarding economics.

Howabout "tax cuts=paying less to the government in taxes=more profits"?

That could be too...I was a bit flippant, I was referring to the Bush tax cuts, (especially the second round) which I believe have been especially counter-productive to economic stimulation. But in the end, you are right, I should not lay the blame on Bush for our nation's economic struggles. While the situation is not great, it is impossible to assign causality. Suffice it to say that his overall economic plan has not led to good times for the nation's economy and businesses' bottom-lines.

posted by: Rich on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



This far before the election, most people don't care and don't do much scrutinizing. The media coverage doesn't engage most people, partly because it is so early and partly because it is so much "horse race" coverage--who's ahead, who's behind--and so little substance--how would this person act as president?

It seems to me that you aren't complaining about the time involved in a Presidential campaign so much as the way the media cover it.

That's a valid criticism, but keep in mind that there are several important groups who do use the time to carefully scrutinize candidates. Besides the big donors and the relevant interest groups, the voters of Iowa and New Hampshire have ample opportunity to meet every candidate several times if they so choose -- and some of them do.

I certainly don't agree with our present system -- in which the rest of the nation has agreed to let two states choose it's Presidential nominees -- but that's what's happened. And the retail campaigning that occurs in those two states does focus very heavily on the issues; people will ask a candidate every kind of question imaginable (including what they're going to do to stop the UFO's from taking over).

So I think that "substance" does occur, but we just don't get to see it in the rest of the country.

posted by: on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



I'd like to see a national primary day, that way the influence of just one or two states would be voided.

posted by: rabidfox on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



"I'd like to see a national primary day, that way the influence of just one or two states would be voided."

If you did that, then the whole thing would be controlled by the contributors.

I like plans to divide the states into groups of 4 or 5, and hold the primaries over a 10 week period. Smallest states first largest last.

posted by: Robert Schwartz on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



"It seems to me that you aren't complaining about the time involved in a Presidential campaign so much as the way the media cover it."

I suppose I'm complaining about both :) But this far before the election, even if the coverage is very substantive, PEOPLE WON'T PAY ATTENTION.

There certainly is some value in having 2 small states start off. I kind of agree "And the retail campaigning that occurs in those two states does focus very heavily on the issues; people will ask a candidate every kind of question imaginable (including what they're going to do to stop the UFO's from taking over)."

But to then jump into a month in which everything is decided 7 months before the election is bad, bad, bad. Most people just aren't mentally and emotionally involved at that point. And no amount of media coverage or public service ads is going to change that.

Hey, why not let New Hampshire and Iowa have their little February selections? Just make sure that no other delegates are selected until May at the earliest. That will give people a chance to digest the two early state results, and to start caring.

posted by: Roger Sweeny on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



This post totally misses the point. It isn't that the Democratic establishment hasn't found an alternative candidate, its that Dean is the establishment candidate.

posted by: ben on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



Daniel Drezner wrote:

But let me close with a hypothetical question: if I'm wrong, then what explains Terry MacAuliffe's continuing reign as the Democratic Party chairman following the 2002 midterm elections?

Who would they have replaced him with?

I agree that the Democratic Party does have a pretty significant gap in national security issues and rightfully so. It’s tough to convince people that you’re serious about protecting the nation from our enemies when you have to cater to a base that is still protesting the Vietnam War.

posted by: Thorley Winston on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]



Clark was always his own man and not a Clinton guy as some in the Army Brass and Republican Party activists parroting them make out.

Clark was fired for doing his job as SACEUR, not for "nearly starting WW3." Clark advocated the use of ground troops in Kosovo over the active opposition of then Secretary of Defense Cohen and most of the senior Army brass. I strongly suspect that the screwed up Apache deployment to Albania was part of that opposition.

Clark won approval of his plan despite that opposition by going around all concerned to President Clinton and, with the political support of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Clark's plan became the NATO plan.

The real threat of facing NATO ground troops forced Milosevic to fold.

Afterwards, Clinton let Cohen fire Clark. Clinton no longer needed Clark and letting Cohen do so kept peace between Clinton and the Pentagon.

posted by: Trent Telenko on 08.26.03 at 10:46 AM [permalink]






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